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John D
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As winter is now upon us, I am getting round to replacing the shocks and bushes on the TACR2a.

Has anyone got any recommendations of parts they have used and recommend.

One friend has suggested Britpart shocks as they are reasonably priced, just wondered if anyone else has particular experience of products that they rate (as hopefully I won't be doing this very often).

With thanks

John

October 31, 2013 at 5:04 PM Flag Quote & Reply

CivvyRIV
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Hi John.

When I did this job on NUF I sourced all the bits from my local independent Land Rover specialist, AGF 4x4, but quite likely he could have got them from Britpart as they are the largest independent supplier of Land Rover parts in the country, so yes I would say Britpart parts are OK.

If you want mail order Martin Motors (www.mm-4x4.com) at Worcester I can personally recommend and they advertise in LRM, although I'm sure you must have someone local to you.

Good luck - Oh and you'll need a very large spanner.

J.C.

November 1, 2013 at 5:28 AM Flag Quote & Reply

John D
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Hello J.C

Thanks for the info and especially the luck (as I feel that will be quite useful). So am thinking going for the standard shocks, to then enable me to also replace the springs.

So this is my next question, are they standard springs or anything fancy that Carmichael fitted to deal with the weight. They appear to be a double spring arrangement.

With thanks

John

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November 4, 2013 at 3:44 PM Flag Quote & Reply

garrytacr
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John D at November 4, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Hello J.C

Thanks for the info and especially the luck (as I feel that will be quite useful). So am thinking going for the standard shocks, to then enable me to also replace the springs.

So this is my next question, are they standard springs or anything fancy that Carmichael fitted to deal with the weight. They appear to be a double spring arrangement.

With thanks

John

Hi.John I dont know if they were standard or heavy duty springs

The double spring arrangement is a seperate

assister spring inside the outer spring.You could

try and give Carmicheal a ring and ask for the spares

manager the number I have is 01905420044

Garry

November 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM Flag Quote & Reply

CivvyRIV
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HI John (and Garry)

The springs are all quite standard.  All Commandos were built on export chassis (whichever side the steering wheel was on) but I have to confess to not knowing if the assister springs were fitted by the factory prior to despatch or by Carmichaels at the factory. - I'll ask.

November 8, 2013 at 2:54 AM Flag Quote & Reply

John D
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Excellent that would be great if you do have a means to find out, if they are standard springs I wonder if any noticeable improvement can be achieved by fitting uprated/heavier duty ones. I am sure Carmichael new more about these things than me though

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November 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM Flag Quote & Reply

CivvyRIV
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Hi again John.

According to Carmichael there is no one left at the factory who worked there in the old Commando days so they are unable to say.  However they do have a few (rusty) springs still left in stock so presume it was part of the original conversion.

My personal advise would be to keep the original spring set up but if you really want to throw some money at it spend it on fitting anti-roll bars.  That would be a far better investment.

November 11, 2013 at 4:54 AM Flag Quote & Reply

simontullett
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I don't think there is anthing wrong with the springs, just change the shocks and fit the pollybushes.

November 14, 2013 at 4:13 PM Flag Quote & Reply

CivvyRIV
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Who's this Polly with the bushes?  I don't see Poly bushes mentioned above.  Poly vs Rubber is another discussion altogether.

November 15, 2013 at 3:06 AM Flag Quote & Reply

John D
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Oh dear I am blushing more than poor Polly would if only she knew of her under carriage being dragged through the mud like this.

 

So another friend has advised that the as the 'donor' RR was Police Spec, perhaps they had an uprated shock to begin with? and either way they believe that the springs may have been bespoke by Carmichael and only available from them.

Given the age of our vehicles now and the weight involved with carrying a full tank of water, someone must have had to replace them at some time? If not at least it would be good to know what a suitable replacement shall be when the inevitable happens to someone <touches wood> - (no innuendos please) .

Regarding shocks they advised to get the best gas shock you can, the more heavy duty the better and they have utilised (He-Man? shocks) from John craddocks.

Regarding suspension bushes they said to use proper Red Polly bushes to stiffen everything up again (now now) as after market ones don't wear. In particular they advised not to use the Graphite ones as they will apparently only last weeks


November 16, 2013 at 3:32 PM Flag Quote & Reply

CivvyRIV
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Well it's all down to personal preference of course but if you intend to run around anywhere near fully loaded I would stick with rubber and standard shocks; you aren't building an off-road racing machine after all, and all that stiffening is bound to transmit vibration and stress further up the bodywork.  The assister springs were not made by Carmichael, they simply bought them in.  They may even have been a factory option at the time.  Anyway, as I said, it's your machine so do whatever you feel comfortable with.  Sounds like you have plenty advice, anyone actually offered to wield a spanner?

November 18, 2013 at 10:09 AM Flag Quote & Reply

John D
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Thanks all, that is really helpful. Am not looking at re-inventing the wheel (ooh I love a pun down), seriously you've helped a novice work out the best way forward by weighing up all the possible options. Merry Xmas to one and all!

November 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Chapster
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Morning,

Bit late maybe. I replaced my springs and shock with brit parts had no problems resonablely priced too. Got them from Foundry 4x4 in April. link below.

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Foundry-4x4-Limited

All the best for christmas and new year

Nige

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Nigel Chapman

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www.rescue-services.co.uk

December 21, 2013 at 1:57 AM Flag Quote & Reply

Nut behind the wheel
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I bought dampers from mm4x4, and other stuff too.

I can't recall who I got the new bump stops from, but when I asked for 2 sets of rears, they got confused, I ordered a couple of other duplicate rear axle bits which solicited the comment that this was the oddest order he'd ever taken, so I told him it was for a 6 wheeler, at which point he understood.

The moral is to be ready for odd reactions to orders when you have a 6 wheeler.


PS, I found I didn't have a spanner for the A frame ball joint. So, obviously I knocked one up, as you do (didn't have much choice TBH).

I suspect the ball joint was the one originally fitted at lode lane, after decades of neglect it wasn't going to budge without a fight. My DIY spanner was no match for it, so I welded it on! This worked nicely as I beat it round with a club hammer. I was all smiles, till I realised that I had another rear axle, and another equally stuck A frame ball joint!

(much bad language, much grinding, more welding, more beating with the club hammer)

December 24, 2013 at 2:58 PM Flag Quote & Reply

John D
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Posts: 149

Hi all (Happy New Year)

So I don't know where the time has gone, but am still plodding on. In case you are riddled with suspense-ion (getting it), I can let you know the final decision...................................

Drum roll etc, etc

After much deliberation, I went for Armstrong Shocks. This was taking on everyone's advice, which included Dunsfold Land Rover who believed that Armstrong made the originals for LR and that they were more superior to Britpart and not that much more expensive. Anything else was just crazy money.

Well all that said, I gues the only one who could trull help us solve which is truly better is Harry Hill.

P.S

I got mine through eBay (after another independent let me down)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251121838879?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649



February 18, 2014 at 2:47 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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